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    Default Do you want Stainless Steel that Sparkles without hours of Polishing?

    Introducing Spotless Stainless, Stainless Steel Cleaner and Protector. Brush it on - wait up to 30 mins - rinse and you will have Stainless Steel that Sparkles! Spotless Stainless - Home




    If you are interested in trying Spotless Stainless (16 oz - pint bottle) at no cost other than the price of shipping use the following coupon/code SSVIP5XE. This offer is available to the first 5 people who want to try Spotless Stainless and who will provide us feedback. (See below for using coupon/codes)

    First 20 new customers will receive 20% off product purchase price. Simply visit Spotless Stainless - Home . When you are ready to purchase click the buy button at the top of page. At the last screen of the payment process before acceptance you will be prompted to enter a code. The following coupon/code SSVIP20 will give a 20% off product purchase for the first 20 people to take advantage of this offer (Coupon expires after 20 people or 12/2009). We are sure you will be amazed with your Stainless Steel after using Spotless Stainless.

    Disclosure I am one of the owners of Spotless Stainless. Spotless Stainless was formed after discovering the effectiveness of passivating Stainless Steel on sailboats. After working with passivating techniques for approximately four years we decided to bring to market a product that can be easily and effectively used in the marine environment.

    Thank you Spotless Stainless..
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    You might be well served to send a couple of the trusted and established members here a sample and let them field test it. With a good review you might get some good business. Some will be leery of buying with out a good reference from a trusted source. Just a thought. (and I am not trying to get a hand out as I don't yet have a boat)



    Quote Originally Posted by albe View Post
    Introducing Spotless Stainless, Stainless Steel Cleaner and Protector.
    Disclosure I am one of the owners of Spotless Stainless. Spotless Stainless was formed after discovering the effectiveness of passivating Stainless Steel on sailboats. After working with passivating techniques for approximately four years we decided to bring to market a product that can be easily and effectively used in the marine environment.

    Thank you Spotless Stainless..
    “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein

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    Default Spotless Stainless free triall product for the first 5 requests

    Thank you.. I setup a code to provide free product to the first 5 people who would like to try Spotless Stainless and give us feeback. We have one customer experience posted on Spotless Stainless - Home with more to come..

    cheers
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    Of course you could just drop the stainless in your basic mixture of high citric acid KOOLAID and do the same thing.

    Works on brass also.

    Now if you are really passivating the stainless steel I have to ask, what is your active ingredient in the process; and does it specifically adhere to any of the federal (Federal Specification QQ-P-35C) or other recognized standards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChucklesR View Post
    Of course you could just drop the stainless in your basic mixture of high citric acid KOOLAID and do the same thing.
    But then you couldn't 'drink the koolaid', and we know what a koolaid drinker you are!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xort View Post
    But then you couldn't 'drink the koolaid', and we know what a koolaid drinker you are!!
    Seriously, in the Navy they call koolaid 'bug juice' - our standard preventive maintenance system (a very formal system) specificied that brass and stainless fittings be soaked for two hours in bug juice, then wire brushed if needed.

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    If you wire brush stainless don't use a carbon steel wire brush as it will leave rust pits all over the stainless.Been there done that!

    Phil

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    Always use brass wire

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    Well in my limited knowable in the SS pharmaceutical world it sort of depends on the SS alloy as to the correct juice needed to achieve a truly passivated part
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    I will try it, if you send me a bottle..I will then tell you my opinion..deal?

    I don't know how you can ship it to me to Portugal, as I believe such product can't be transported ion airline checked luggage.

    If it can, you can send it to any of my friends in the US, and they will send it ti wherever r I am in the US on my next trip

    Thanks

    Alex


    Quote Originally Posted by albe View Post
    Introducing Spotless Stainless, Stainless Steel Cleaner and Protector. Brush it on - wait up to 30 mins - rinse and you will have Stainless Steel that Sparkles! Spotless Stainless - Home




    If you are interested in trying Spotless Stainless (16 oz - pint bottle) at no cost other than the price of shipping use the following coupon/code SSVIP5XE. This offer is available to the first 5 people who want to try Spotless Stainless and who will provide us feedback. (See below for using coupon/codes)

    First 20 new customers will receive 20% off product purchase price. Simply visit Spotless Stainless - Home . When you are ready to purchase click the buy button at the top of page. At the last screen of the payment process before acceptance you will be prompted to enter a code. The following coupon/code SSVIP20 will give a 20% off product purchase for the first 20 people to take advantage of this offer. We are sure you will be amazed with your Stainless Steel after using Spotless Stainless.

    Disclosure I am one of the owners of Spotless Stainless. Spotless Stainless was formed after discovering the effectiveness of passivating Stainless Steel on sailboats. After working with passivating techniques for approximately four years we decided to bring to market a product that can be easily and effectively used in the marine environment.

    Thank you Spotless Stainless..

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    The standard that we reference that specifies the acids to use for passivation is American Standard for Testing and Materials - ASTM A967 - Standard Specification for Chemical Passivation Treatments for Stainless Steel Parts.

    ASTM A 967 may be used instead of Federal Specification QQ-P-35, "Passivation Treatments for Corrosion-Resistant Steel." QQ-P-35 only covers passivation by the nitric acid processes. ASTM A 967 covers passivation treatments using either nitric acid or citric acid (which is less hazardous and more environmentally acceptable). ASTM A 967 is under the jurisdiction of ASTM Committee A-1 on Steel, Stainless Steel, and Related Alloys and is the direct responsibility of Subcommittee A01.14 on Methods of Corrosion Testing. The current edition was approved on 10 September 1996. QQ-P-35 will be canceled. QQ-P-35C, dated 28 October 1988, NOTICE 1 dated 4 APRIL 1997 and NOTICE 2 dated 14 NOVEMBER 1997, are hereby canceled. Future acquisitions for this product should refer to American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) specification ASTM A967, "Standard Specification for Chemical Passivation Treatments for Stainless Steel Parts", or, SAE Aerospace Materials Specification (AMS) AMS-QQ-P-35, "Passivation treatments for Corrosion-Resistant Steel". Aerospace applications require the use of AMS-QQ-P-35. (Notice from the feds about the cancellation of QQ-P-35)

    Yes there are different formulations and processes for different grades of stainless.

    The active ingredient in Spotless Stainless is primarily Citric Acid. Not far off with the Bug Juice - I would stay away from the wire pad.

    The formulation we have is specifically designed for the marine environment to provide efficient removal of all rust and "free iron" from the surface of stainless steel and providing the highest chrome oxide levels possible. It adheres to vertical surfaces and essentially creates a chemical bath around Stainless Steel. There is a "how it works page" on Spotless Stainless - Home . Thank you for your comments.

    cheers

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    It does look interesting, and even if there's no "magic" in it, there's a nned for a passivating product that consumers can simply buy in less than 55 gallon drums!

    But you realize that before you can legally ship this product across any US state lines, you also need to make the product MSDS readily accessible to the public. Perhaps a link from the home page?

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    Thanks for the breakout Albe

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    Albe,

    I work in the medical device industry. As a result have worked with Nitric acid, Citrus acid, electro polishing (Phosphoric / Sulfuric Acid) passivation systems.

    How does your product compare to Stellar Solutions Citrisurf 77 plus? Any differences in formulation, viscosity, moisture retention?
    (Which is also available on line to the consumer in 22 ounce spray bottles).

    Thanks,

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    Pat,

    Good day, I do not have experience with this product. I do know Stellar Solutions.

    By the way our first boat was a C&C 32. What a great boat!


    cheers
    -allen
    Last edited by albe; 01-04-2010 at 07:48 AM.

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    Albe,

    CKgreenman contacted you by email, I believe, so I could get some of that product to test.

    BTW I am an Engineer and quite familiar with austenitics and passivation. I'd love to try that. Please see if you received his contacts

    Thanks

    Alex

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    Alex,

    I will check. BTW, I learned that I must charge at least 1 cent (us) for product to clear payment for shipping through the gateway.

    So I must revise the offer to product for 1 cent plus shipping.

    cheers
    -allen

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    IT's OK..just send him a bottle, and on my next visit to the US, he will send it to me..

    I can tehn take it home and test it on some SS that has gone brown..

    One question..I have a lot of Carbon fiber and other materials in contact with the SS.

    Will your product attack fiberglass, Carbon fiber, wood and Dyneema ropes?

    Thanks

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    Alex,

    In general Spotless Stainless will not harm surfaces however, It is important to test a sample area before application. You should not use on Carbon or Galvanized steel, concrete or in PVC pipe. These are listed on our website. I am not sure about Carbon Fiber. I know that on some Stainless Steel welds that are high in Carbon, Spotless Stainless will darken the material. It may also darken high carbon stainless steel. We have only encountered this situation once on an aftermarket anchor carrier. We recommend that you test a small area around the application to ensure there is no adverse effect.

    We and others have used Spotless Stainless with no adverse effect on fiberglass, aluminum, wood, spectra lines (hardware attached), 3m 101 sealant, bronze, brass, around sails cleaning the hardware connections ... . We rinse well after passivation is complete.

    cheers
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    Albe,
    I have been using Ospho (Home) for years to achieve what appears to be the same result that I see in your shackle. Could you please tell me if your product is more effective or significantly safer than what I've been using?

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    Knothead,

    Good day, I have never used ospho so I have no first hand experience. I know people who have used ospho. They tell me it is a good rust remover for carbon and galvanized steel. I don't know anyone who has used it on Stainless.

    It contains a high % of phosphoric acid. I am told by the 2 surface chemists we are working with that Phosphoric Acid will remove iron oxide (rust) but will not remove the "free iron" that causes the rust in the first place. The "free iron" is removed by passivation. Phosphoric Acid will not passivate stainless steel and is not listed as such by ASTM A 967. The company that makes ospho does not state to use it on Stainless Steel (that I can find on their website). I spoke with them about a month ago. They told me it will remove rust from Stainless but will not remove "free iron" so the rust will return. They said ospho is typically used (and sold) to prep carbon and galvanized steel for paint or some other metal coating. Because Phosphoric acid does not passivate and that it is typically listed as a toxic substance in the US (see below) we did not consider it for an an active agent. Phosphoric Acid has been used for rust removal on carbon steel for sometime. Ospho since 1947 I think.. Remember Naval Jelly.. Wichinox made by Wichard and sold by west marine uses phosphoric acid for removing rust. I have experience with this product. It does remove rust but in my experience the rust returns with a vengeance.

    The applications of ospho that I am familiar with are on barges. After ospho is applied as directed they paint the surface of the steel. Ospho is listed as a toxic (hazardous) material due to a high concentration of a mineral acid - Phosphoric Acid. It will produce toxic fumes if involved in a fire and reaction to metals will produce hydrogen gas which is flammable.

    Phosphoric acid reacts with iron oxide (rust) and converts to a water-soluble phosphate compound. I asked the EPA about acids early on in our work with Spotless Stainless (a couple of years ago). I was told I would have much scrutiny if using Phosphoric Acid in a marine environment in the US. More phosphate in the water ways is not something the EPA desires this along with Phosphoric acid being listed on the toxic material list make it difficult to stay out of the way of the EPA . As you are aware Ospho is sold in the US and I know it is used in commercial applications around waterways. Ospho stated to me that the product breaks down into a another compound and readily dilutes in water so it is not an issue.

    Based on our research on the use acids to passivate Stainless Steel (in many industrial applications) we feel that Spotless Stainless is a much better cleaner and rust remover for Stainless Steel. The active agent in spotless stainless is much safer to use and much more environmentally friendly.

    Unlike Phosphoric acid which will not passivate, Nitric Acid will passivate Stainless Steel and remove "free iron" however, it can be extremely toxic, typically used in controlled environments and may require extensive disposal procedures. Nitric Acid will also remove heavy metals (ie chromium ...) from Stainless Steel which is not good for Stainless Steel.


    cheers
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    I am eagerly waiting for my bottle...really am

    Hope it works good

    Alex

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    Hi albe,
    I am a brand new member of A-S. I just used the coupon code to receive a 16 oz. bottle of your Spotless Stainless product. I will use it onboard as soon as it arrives. Thank you for the opportunity.
    James

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    I got my bottle in a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I'll post some pictures once I get a chance.

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    Hi wchevron,

    I am glad to hear you received your package.. As you are aware I included a page "For best results". The lower the temp the more time you may need for exposure. It must be getting cold in RI. If it is to cold for you to be outside you can use Spotless Stainless inside in a bath for loose hardware. I am sure you guys in RI are use to being outside in the cold. I am cold adverse. We look forward to hearing your results.

    (We updated our website if you visit and it looks funny refresh your browser to clear local cache. Home - Spotless Stainless Removes Rust, Protects Stainless Steel )

    If anyone is interested there is a post at the following link from a person who tried Spotless Stainless this past weekend.

    http://www.seafaring.com/forum/viewt...=152521#152521 You may need to scroll up to the top of the page.

    Here is the experience from another user in South fl from this past weekend.
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    Allen

    I used the Spotless Stainless steel material today on my 35 year old Downeaster 32 and it worked wonders.

    The boat has spent a lot of time in the tropics and the stainless steel railings and fittings were pretty ugly. Since I am in the process of restoring the boat and giving her a second leash on life, I was contemplating the thought that I might have to remove the stainless steel and either replace it completely or send it out to be re-polished – an expensive proposition to say the least. I had tried several “cleaners” previously with mixed results but nothing met the standard that I had set for Saffanah’s restoration. So when I saw the advertisement for Spotless Stainless I was a little cynical to say the least. This weekend, while on the boat in the Keys, I tried the sample that you sent to me. While I am an engineer by training I will admit I treated my testing in a very casual and cavalier manner – in other words I did not read your instructions, did not shake the bottle and just brushed the material on the railing. Then I forgot it only to come back a hour later to wash it off. And guess what – it did a great job. With that test in mind, I then read your directions and followed your suggestions and guess what – the Spotless Stainless did even a better job. Tough to reach rust spots that would have been difficult without nitric acid dipping and machine polishing were easily cleaned up with your material. So I am definitely a proponent for Spotless Stainless – whether as an boat owner or if I were a professional detailer working on someone else’s boat . It is simple to use, requires little skill, and does a great job better than anything else I have tried.

    Thanks
    SV Saffanah
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    I revceived my bottle of Spotless Stainless over a month ago. I had just winterized my boat when the product came in so I didn't have a chance to try it out on any of the stainless hardware. I will say I did receive it in the mail only a week after I placed the order. True to their word, the product was free, I only paid for shipping.
    Last week I found this knife near my office. At first I thought there was blood on it but turned out it was only rust. (If you knew the neighborhood where I worked, you would understand)
    Brought it home and applied the Spotless Stainless on it. Let it sit for 45 minutes and washed off with water. It came out pretty clean. I was impressed. Granted, the knife didn't have that much rust on it but I had sprayed the knife with WD-40 and a degreaser first to clean most of the gunk off it. The pictures with the rust stains was what I was left over with after the cleaning. I'm interested to see how well it works on the boat next summer.
    I think the product works. I wish I had something with more rust on it but for the way it worked on the knife, I would recommend it.
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    Looks good! thanks for the update!
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    Default Thanks for trying Spotless Stainless..

    wchevron,

    Thank you for the feedback.. Based on the experience of others I think you will be impressed once your weather warms and you are back on your boat. Better results in less time with warmer temps are being confirmed by others using Spotless Stainless. Ensuring Spotless Stainless reaches the surface is also being confirmed by others. Below is an example of where the stainless had some substance preventing Spotless Stainless reaching the surface. We recommend cleaning off wax, excessive dirt, grime .. anything that will prevent Spotless Stainless reaching the surface.

    The following is the before photo. The owner stated he had not cleaned the Stainless in some time. It is hard to tell but it appears there is something other than rust on the Stainless. It may be dirt and grime built up over time.



    He tried a small area with Spotless Stainless and did not get the results expected. We recommended that he clean off the substance on the Stainless. He sprayed with a multi-purpose cleaner rinsed then applied Spotless Stainless to remove the rust and free-iron.

    Treated with Spotless Stainless for 30 mins air temp was 81 degrees F.



    The owner said the welds on the swim ladder were pretty bad before applying Spotless Stainless and there was still some rust in the welds after the application. Welds can be hard to reach due to the crevices and irregular surface. Typically welds have more rust and deeper corrosion. Another application of Spotless Stainless should take care of the welds. (weld example Customer Reviews - Spotless Stainless Removes Rust, Protects Stainless Steel )

    Welding - Heating Stainless Steel may change the properties in the heated area and may facilitate corrosion. We have seen where the first application of Spotless Stainless removes much of the rust from heavily rusted welds. Once this rust is removed another application can reach deeper into the crevices of the weld and remove the rest of the rust. Regular use of Spotless Stainless will increase the time between cleaning and extend the life of Stainless Steel.

    wchevron - Thanks again for the feedback.. We look forward to hearing from you in the spring when you get back on your boat.

    cheers
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    OK

    Today I finnally used the bottle Albe sent me (via Chris)

    It works wonders..

    I am very happy with the results, altough in some places had to use it twice.

    I will most definitely acquire more

    Thanks Albe..you have a good product there

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    OK.. I like how you do business. Just ordered a quart
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    Default Spotless Stainless Rust Remover and Protector..

    Alex,

    I am glad you got a chance to use Spotless Stainless and happy to hear your results. We have had many good reviews since launching the product late last year. We posted a few reviews on our website. www.spotlessstainless.com.

    cheers
    -allen

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    David,

    Thank you for your order..

    cheers
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    Just ordered a quart as well...

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    Albe, I have a question..or two.

    1) will it stain the teak?
    2) Will it affect teflon and terlon inserts and bushings
    3) Will it affect paint with that clear varnish layer over it?

    thanks

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    I finally used the stuff last week. It's been too damn cold but lately the fronts have stopped here in the Bahamas and it's warming up. It works as advertised. I'm very happy. Only thing is it seems to dry out fast and I had to keep spraying water on it. I got the first quart free but I'll be ordering some more as soon as I get back to the States.
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    Alex,

    Good day, we have had Spotless Stainless all over our teak with no staining or adverse effect. It did clean some black mold off our teak rail. You should know we do not like wood so our teak rail has no vanish left on it. We did not see any change to teak that was varnished. We plan to remove what teak remains on the exterior on our boat. We are basically lazy. Laziness was the main motivation for Spotless Stainless

    It should not affect teflon or paint. We have experience getting it on paint with no adverse results. We have used Spotless Stainless to remove rust stains on fiberglass, plastic and sealant as have others with great results. However YOU should TEST a small area of any material that you have concerns. You should not leave Spotless Stainless on Carbon Steel, galvanized steel or Concrete. (I'll bet there is no concrete on your boat) We have no reports of any surface that has been adversely affected by Spotless Stainless (other than the above that you should avoid). If there is a surface of concern and you get Spotless Stainless on that surface simply rinse it off. Like any product always test a small area of surfaces that give you concern. If you do find a surface that is adversely affected please let us know. The active ingredients have been used in different formulations with no adverse effects for many years in the food processing and other industries and has been in contact with many different materials.

    Rick glad to hear you finally got some warm weather and had a chance to use Spotless Stainless. Drying out in hot weather can be a challenge. When we use Spotless Stainless we cover most or all of our Stainless. If we see an area that looks like it is drying we lightly re-brush with the solution. We typically don't clean Stainless in direct sun or when it is extremely hot. We prefer to be somewhere cool anyway. In the summer we use Spotless Stainless on cloudy days or in the morning or evening when the sun is not direct.

    We are always interested to hear experiences with Spotless Stainless. If you would like to contact us our email is allen(at)spotlessstainless(dot)com.

    cheers
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    We purchased a bottle a few weeks ago and used it on our stanchion bases with good results. We were in the process of rebedding all the deck hardware, so we used it while the stanchions were off the boat. Temps were in the high 60s to low 70s, so we gave it a little more time than the recommended 30 mins. Humidity was very low and it did want to dry rather quickly. Instead of spraying with water, we wraped the stanchion bases in sandwich bags. We were able to do this becuase the stanchions were off the boat and it worked well for us. I plan to use it on all our remaining hardware.
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